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Shortcut Keys in Firefox 2

Having just upgraded, shift-alt does the job of what alt used to do. (see Wikipedia shortcuts page [1]) Mark ong 18:59, 17 December 2006 (GMT)

BMJ mention

National Library of Health

Not only is its new search engine opaque, it does not search yet its own databases well...or perhaps they are unpopulated. Ah well, more implementation issues by the suits. Mlj 18:45, 27 December 2006 (GMT)

Anarchist free university (some resonance here)

For your amusement and interest, an article on the four year old university http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070106.ANARCHIST06/TPStory/TPEntertainment/Ontario/ Midgley 03:11, 9 January 2007 (GMT)

PHP breaks with 5.0 upgrade

  • Upgrade 26.1.07 breaks to be noted here for resolution
Timeline with new input rather than cached input

Warning: fopen(/var/wikis/ganfyd-1.6.7/images/timeline/c6c86587fa52a6f3ad70f291a17c42d1) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /var/wikis/ganfyd-permanent/extensions/EasyTimeline.php on line 37

Warning: fwrite(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in /var/wikis/ganfyd-permanent/extensions/EasyTimeline.php on line 38

Warning: fclose(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in /var/wikis/ganfyd-permanent/extensions/EasyTimeline.php on line 39

Warning: unlink(/var/wikis/ganfyd-1.6.7/images/timeline/c6c86587fa52a6f3ad70f291a17c42d1) [function.unlink]: No such file or directory in /var/wikis/ganfyd-permanent/extensions/EasyTimeline.php on line 47

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/wikis/ganfyd-permanent/extensions/EasyTimeline.php:37) in /var/wikis/ganfyd-1.6.7/includes/OutputPage.php on line 570

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/wikis/ganfyd-permanent/extensions/EasyTimeline.php:37) in /var/wikis/ganfyd-1.6.7/includes/OutputPage.php on line 571
Has the same effect as the old bug when the paths weren't set at all in LocalSettings.php and EasyTimeline has defaults which don't apply on our server as per September 2006Mlj 22:17, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Math fails

Failed to parse (Can't write to or create math temp directory): bx^2 + bx + c = 0 Mlj 22:29, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

PHP seems to be running with the wrong permissions or something. Have just tried to fix it, but all it did is suppress the warnings - the commands are still failing. Will look at it with fresh eyes in the morning. —Rupert (Talk) 22:34, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Fascinating - #urlencode: is working (one of first I checked) but all other string functions fail to be recognised. I assume its all one PHP module so would have thought all would fail. Adam's <replace> function is broken, but wasn't used much once we got wiki Parser Functions which do seem to still work. Mlj 22:46, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
The problems with timelimes & formulae are fixed. I've not found which parserfunctions are broken. <replace> hasn't been enabled since it became a parserfunction - I wasn't aware it was used anywhere. —Rupert (Talk) 10:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
The functions that are simply not recognised are:
#sub: {{#sub:teststring|3|3}} gives tst
#pos: {{#pos:test|e|0}} gives 1
#len: {{#len:string}} gives 6
#urldecode: {{#urldecode:http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ganfyd.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DTalk%3AMain_Page%26action%3Dedit}} gives http://www.ganfyd.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&action=edit
while #urlencode: eg {{#urlencode:http://www.ganfyd.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&action=edit}} gives http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ganfyd.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DTalk%3AMain_Page%26action%3Dedit

so works fine ! As far as I can see the functions just are not registered so it might well not be a PHP fault as the PHP is likely to be the same.Mlj 10:56, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Were any of those ever written, and are they actually useful? I remember coding urlencode at some point, and a string substitution function, although I can't remember off hand what that was called. Writing a pos function doesn't seem like the sort of thing I'd do though. (I think I did them very shortly after parser functions were added to MW, whenever that was.) —Rupert (Talk) 18:36, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Well I know they all worked at some stage way back like within the last 14 months !. You just copied them from mediawiki I believe. I can't recall ever using these functions in anger but certainly used replace. I suggest you give template busters like me all the tools as I still have some ideas of what we might do with some of whats on the web. Mlj 19:41, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I've installed them now, although I'm sure I never installed them before today! I found the source code here, which says they're not installed on Wikimedia projects. —Rupert (Talk) 20:01, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks.
Overwhelmed as I got unasked wonderful opportunities to write totally obscure template code
{{#replace:valuefromto|from|to}} gives valuetoto
{{#explode:valueofvalue|a|1}} gives lueofv
{{#pad:value|10|w|left}} gives wwwwwvalue
{{#rpos:value|u}} gives 3
Full marks Mlj 23:08, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
pmid is a bit broken Rupert

With pubmed:11562520 got Fatal error: Cannot use string offset as an array in /var/wikis/ganfyd-permanent/extensions/pubmed_caption_finder.php on line 238 Can you also please take this opportunity to clear out hard returns in output which causes me to generate page churn...ie pubmed allows %0A characters in returned strings, which surely a simple PHP replace with a space isn't that hard to code in, even if the codes a hack

PS I did check to see if the replace function {{#replace:string|to be changed|changed to you have exposed would allow me to do this but unhappily as I thought would be the case <pmid></pmid> is executed after template processing. Shame you couldn't expose <pmid></pmid>. as a special function like {{#pmid:pmid number}} as I could process pmid with those new exposed string functions and solve the problem myself very inefficiently. Mlj 22:50, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I've done the hack. Newlines should be filtered-if you could confirm that I would be grateful. I've made the fatal error more friendly (the red text, rather than a crash.) I can't handle it properly though until I finish the structured code. PubMed XML is very variable. —Rupert (Talk) 10:14, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Still poor error handling due to PHP5 - the following pmids for pubmed:9339958 pubmed:11192360 pubmed:12543892 generate a throw out like Fatal error: Cannot use string offset as an array in /var/wikis/ganfyd-permanent/extensions/pubmed_caption_finder.php on line 237 which I think is somewhere in

restore_error_handler();
        $doi_found=false;
        foreach($temp['PubmedArticle']["PubmedData"]["ArticleIdList"]["ArticleId"] as $articleID)
        {
                if ($articleID["_attributes"]["IdType"]=="doi")
                {
                        $doi=$articleID["_content"];
                        $doi_found=true;
                        break;
                }
        }
                
        if($doi_found)

Think its likely to be the statement foreach not handled right. Enjoy.Mlj 13:36, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Rupert and myself have really debugged <pmid> and on a test set up its been working a treat. Multiple minor bugs and major ones (like that foreach not cleanly handling attributes due to others bugs) dealt with. Will go mainstream as soon as Rupert has time to upload and if we don't do any more fiddling for output perfection.Mlj 20:01, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Here's a few pmid numbers for trouble-shooting:

<ref><pmid>8870875</pmid></ref> <ref><pmid>10452467</pmid></ref> <ref><pmid>16365571</pmid></ref> <ref><pmid>17164361</pmid></ref> <ref><pmid>17164362</pmid></ref> <ref><pmid>11395819</pmid></ref> <ref><pmid>12767564</pmid></ref> <ref><pmid>17502630</pmid></ref>

Getting a vet involved?

Reading bovine tuberculosis, I wonder if a veterinary input would be helpful in places. I know a very intelligent veterinary student from school, who I'd happily ask. OTOH, I see that we might not want to further relax the requirement that only registered medical practitioners edit. Just an idea that I'm throwing out. —Rupert (Talk) 18:24, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I think one or two would. It fits in "other invited experts". Shall I invite a dentist I know as well, people? Midgley 15:06, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

A note in case any database corruption

First save of page Adverse drug reactions; at clock time 00:31 31/1/07 returned a page to my browser (Firefox 2.0) that was corrupted (non formated HTML) starting with insertion of P: and ending with warning message Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/wikis/ganfyd-permanent/extensions/pubmed_caption_finder.php:68) in /var/wikis/ganfyd-1.6.7/includes/OutputPage.php on line 416 etc I have saved the corrupt HTML and the HTML of the page that was actually generated if anyone wants to look at the two. Very very funny. and worrying Mlj 00:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

A clear bug report, thanks. I've fixed this now. Also, there won't have been any corruption. Either it will have saved OK or it won't. —Rupert (Talk) 08:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Don't know where we would be without you...no doubt in the same mess as DUNK even if we do use much more reliable software once upgrade issues sorted ! ....Are you keeping a log of all these bug fixes somewhere for others less skilled Mlj 08:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
I think the lesson to learn is to upgrade as soon as possible. If we'd started with PHP5, before putting MediaWiki on this server, there'd not have been a problem. If I'd done the upgrade before I got out of practise at fixing stupid configuration things, it would have gone more smoothly. I'm not looking forward to upgrading to 1.9.1, but I will do that at the weekend. —Rupert (Talk) 10:06, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Happy days! Give me a shout and I'll give you a hand if my computer isn't in a cardboard box waiting for the Pickford's removal van.--A.l.brown 14:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh joy. I think I'll be around, let me know when you are starting and I'll seek to assist. Midgley 15:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
It's a one person job, really. Just unzip the tarball and fix what's broken. —Rupert (Talk) 15:22, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Actually I suppose I could fork the database and copy the installation. Then set that up on dev.ganfyd.org, get that working. Then ditch the forked database, copy the new images and rerun the upgrade script. —Rupert (Talk) 15:25, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Let me know when you're done - the registration system needs an overhaul once things are updated.--A.l.brown 21:43, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Will do. Probably won't do it today, after all. I think the best way to tightly integrate our bespoke registration system is to add a special page, Special:BespokeRegister. I got somewhere with this before, back when I had MW 1.7 on my local test wiki. —Rupert (Talk) 03:23, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia

See various news items (via Google) http://news.google.co.uk/nwshp?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wn&ncl=1114193506

I suppose this affirms our approach of allowing only qualified professionals to contribute. Mark ong 23:26, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Clocks going forward

The server and MediaWiki have cleverly changed the time zone from UTC to BST, so signatures are in the most appropriate format. To change the dates on recent changes and history pages, edit the time zone in the date and time tab of the preferences page. The "fill in from browser" button should do the trick. —Rupert (Talk) 11:32, 25 March 2007 (BST)

Image upload seems to have fallen over

Can't upload any images. All assigned zero bytes. Can others confirm this bug introduced in least 2 days Mlj 22:57, 27 March 2007 (BST)

more informative error message now Could not copy file "/tmp/phpUxPmT7" to "/home/wikis/ganfyd-1.9.3/images/0/07/Ursodeoxycholic.png".....so perhaps someones working on it !Mlj 23:20, 27 March 2007 (BST)
Seems to be working OK now - I think Rupert may have been doing some maintainance. --A.l.brown 00:01, 28 March 2007 (BST)
Storing old archives in /home was a fine idea, except that /home was one of the directories being archived.... 67Gb used up pretty quickly! I've deleted the vast archives, and excluded /home/archives from the backup. —Rupert (Talk) 00:13, 28 March 2007 (BST)
I think I should probably have some automatic monitoring. Perhaps the output of df to be emailed to me every day? Could someone write such a shell script for me, so I can add it to crontab? If not, I'll probably get round to it eventually. —Rupert (Talk) 00:19, 28 March 2007 (BST)
I love pipes & command line programs. Forget writing a script - the command df | mail -s "Ganfyd server partition usage" rupert@hiswebsite.com is sufficient! —Rupert (Talk) 18:34, 29 March 2007 (BST)

RSS feed

Is it just me or has the rss feed fallen over? ("Live Bookmark feed failed to load" in Firefox)--Manville 16:04, 3 April 2007 (BST)

It has fallen over ever since the last upgrade. I am looking into alternatives to the Magpie RSS parser we used previously. Off with scarlet fever at the moment though so not doing much at all, apart from moaning and being generally miserable.--A.l.brown 00:09, 4 April 2007 (BST)

OSHCA Kuala Lumpur meeting (8-11 May 2007)

If I was going to talk about Ganfyd there, and when others of us go and talk about this in other places, what points and resources should be given most stress? My inclination is to talk about the licence; obviously here is an example of actual use of open source software for a medical purpose; perhaps we should have a few slides in due course as part of Ganfyd? Midgley 00:31, 14 April 2007 (BST)

Mention in student BMJ

Ganfyd was mentioned in today's student BMJ. —Rupert (Talk) 11:20, 4 May 2007 (BST)

Article in Nature

http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v13/n3/full/nm0307-231.html

Holidays

Have happy holidays everyone. I'll be around all August. Midgley 13:06, 8 August 2007 (BST)

PMID

I have just given the new pmid fetcher a good test. Its still working fine, but we are not always getting a good enough response from pubmed to always resolve references before our present PHP timeouts occur, especially when we hammer pubmed hard. In due course I will make the code more robust by ensuring that if this error condition occurs the error string returns without wiping the pmid number on a page save. This will be achievable by a special case if pmid tests not to be a number. Cheers all. Mlj 18:38, 2 September 2007 (BST)

100,000 hits

I see the main page is about to hit this order of magnitude, just after the second birthday. Well done all. Mlj 02:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Open Knowledge Conference - London 15 March 2008

http://www.okfn.org/okcon/programme/

We could do worse than offering to present at that. 15:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Mind maps embedded in mediawiki useful?

http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page It looks as though we could do it. WOuld it be useful, and if so, how do we use such things? Midgley 14:46, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

certainly interesting, but java applets are not a totally safe way of presenting things on a wiki (more risky than *.doc files for us on Linux) so does not seem practicable. Did like http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/extensions/freemind/flashwindow.php?initLoadFile=/wiki/images/f/f8/Cannulation.mm&startCollapsedToLevel=5&mm_title=Cannulation.mm
even if it misses my favourite vasodilator, GTN spray. So might well have a play since concept maps and mind maps might have more real life constructive potential than the java applets I have been programming myself for fun this Xmas.Mlj 01:31, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
OK - had a play in eclipse. Extremely full featured editor environment in current 0.9-unstable version but pointless for us as does need java applet to work in browser. Now if you could get the *.mm file to work with SVG and javascript that would be interesting for the Firefox users and the rest of the world if Microsoft ever installs SVG in IE as a default. At moment the SVG export is just a screen dump but with Google Web Toolkits ability to translate java into tight javascript the technology gets interesting. Mlj 14:48, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Fellows travelling?

The Free Knowledge Institute (http://www.freeknowledge.eu) is an initiative from three Amsterdam-based professionals who currently work for Internet Society Netherlands. In the past years ISOC.nl coordinated a large-scale EU-project SELF which embraced the same objectives. The need to share knowledge freely has become so important that the institute now turns into an independent organisation. From Glynn Moody's Open dot dot dot blog.

I think it is nice to know of people doing stuff in the same social space. Midgley 10:55, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

CSS errors

While some are obviously deliberate to give cross browser compatibility I can not understand

div#searchTarget ul li:before { color: orange; content: "\00BB \0020"; }

As there is no colour orange defined in CSS ! Mlj 18:11, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Small screen usability

Looking at ganfyd with an Asus EeePC with a 7" screen, it is quite usable. Midgley 15:34, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Template BiteBox

From page layout perspective it was getting on my nerves. I have set the style to clear:left which seems to me to usually give much more readable pages. What do others think, as we could always revert ? Mlj 23:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Looks good. Mark ong 00:46, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I preferred it originally when the next box - SubjectBox - would simply overly the right end of it. I'm keen on the bites, and think most of them should be at the top, but they shouldn't be excessively obtrusive. Midgley 17:16, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Joints: structure

I put a thought on the Talk:Shoulder page. Midgley 14:05, 22 June 2008 (BST)

Glitch, possibly a couple of brief downs to come

The technical team noted a problem with the service earlier today, and it is now restored. There may be a couple of brief downages in the next few hours to set up and test a more permanent remedy. No data has been lost - unless you were actually in the middle of an edit in which case that won't have been committed (MLJ). Midgley 21:04, 9 July 2008 (BST)

Well done, Adrian. Sorry for being so little help. I really ought to dig out my log-in details and put them in a little "break glass in emergency" box on the wall, where I can't lose them! —Rupert (Talk) 21:08, 9 July 2008 (BST)
Rupert, your technical manual is a good bit of work. I'll ring you or you ring me (I don't have your number to hand) and we'll make sure the logins are adequately spread. Midgley 21:10, 9 July 2008 (BST)
Yes it failed on a preview of a new page on I think CD128 which was disambiguation but nothing major lost...lose more stuff with XP crashes at work every week.Mlj 22:55, 9 July 2008 (BST)
Hats off to Adrian and Rupert for their sterling efforts. --A.l.brown 23:11, 9 July 2008 (BST)
That's a big notice. I wasn't going to brag about the outage, I think we needn't for long. Midgley 08:45, 10 July 2008 (BST)
I agree - I was only going to leave it up there for 24 hours to address any queries that visitors returning after unsuccessfully trying during the downtime may have.

I'm going to reboot it. Should come up promptly and automagically. Midgley 22:36, 10 July 2008 (BST)

Prompt and clean, but not automagically yet. It is an alias/symlink thing I think. Some of our executable locations are not those which are default for Debian. Midgley 22:45, 10 July 2008 (BST)

Attacks

There is no suggestion of compromise or of the server being downed by an attack, but review of logs indicated we were being attacked. I thought something like this was going on. We have been seeing a less sophisticated set of attacks, and for whatever good it may do I've reported some to ISPs. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/14/brute_force_ssh_attack/ http://panthersoftware.com/articles/view/5/automatically-report-all-ssh-brute-force-attacks-to-isps

I'll reproduce the defence I have on my own network, cautiously. Midgley 12:09, 14 July 2008 (BST)

Medpedia

At http://www.medpedia.com

Sent off this letter:

Dear Sirs,

As a contributing editor to a sister medical wikipedia powered by Mediawiki, I can only but welcome your venture.

Please do not take this email as permission to edit content from the GANFYD website (http://www.ganfyd.org) at this point of time when it is rather difficult to understand certain matters about your sister venture with some of the same objectives, and whether you qualify to do so under the terms of our license.

I note your claim that only MDs can edit content on your site. This is rather non specific as not every country uses MD as a medical qualification and having an MD qualification is different from being a registered medical practitioner in a jurisdiction. I also note it is unclear from the information available on your website if the licenses and conditions are compatible, particularly as your commercial affiliations are unclear (I note the .com URL), there is start up capital involved and an unclear relationship with Ooga Labs.

You are welcome to visit http://www.ganfyd.org and examine the license at http://www.ganfyd.org/deeds/commons.html for compatibility clashes, or as a guide to clarification of your sites terms and intentions.

Fully signed in my NHS and GMC capacity....Mlj 21:31, 23 July 2008 (BST)

I expect their thing will be good, and that they are good people. I think we have the right licence, and wonder whether they have quite got hold of this open documentation and commons thing, but it will be interesting to see how things go. Midgley 17:10, 24 July 2008 (BST)

The reply speaks for itself:

From: aspillmann@mail.medpedia.com

Dear Dr. ...,

Thank you for your email – your message to Medpedia was received. Medpedia is a collaborative project that you can help guide, so your suggestions and feedback are greatly appreciated.

With your help, Medpedia can become the most comprehensive medical resource in the world that will benefit millions of people every year.

Sincerely, The Medpedia Project

I'm curious to know what material they will 'seed' the pages with. The one huge advantage they have over us is access to the US doctors and the weighty reputation of the backing medical schools. I share your concerns about the reliance on advertising (given potentially resources from medical schools) and also the extent of involvement of their commercial partners: "Medpedia.com Inc. is funded and managed by Ooga Labs a technology greenhouse in San Francisco developing several for-profit, mission-oriented companies to address worldwide needs in health, education, and activism. (my italics). Mark ong 01:11, 27 July 2008 (BST)

I got the same reply, automated I think. To what extent hey are moving away from the model of a relatively small group of people making assertions, toward a more widely collaborative model tending to Web 2.0 remains to be seen. I do think that Ganfyd is sufficiently visible nowadays that a literature search would have shown us up, and before starting something like that, I would ahve done a literature search. Midgley 01:37, 27 July 2008 (BST)
From article at thestandard. Second paragraph. Implies some parts will not be editable - that's rather contrary to concept of a wiki?
"For its part, Harvard Medical School will publish content on the site that are uneditable that their faculty has created." Mark ong 07:08, 27 July 2008 (BST)
Web 1.0 still. We remain an advanced form, but require critical mass. Midgley 23:00, 27 July 2008 (BST)
I agree. And critical mass is something we need to work on. I reckon for it's third (third already!) birthday, we ought to actually have that meeting of contributors that we have talked about for so long, and look at ways of improving the registration system - including somebody who knows what they are doing re-writing the code for it! --A.l.brown 00:14, 31 July 2008 (BST)
Concur. I think a presentation of our work thus far, and how things have evolved into a way of working, at a suitably learned meeting, would be appropriate. I can stand up and talk in general terms, but am not academically distinguished (the rest of the meeting might be wasted on me). Midgley 22:54, 5 August 2008 (BST)

Let us now lose the warning flag, it seems stable. Midgley 22:54, 5 August 2008 (BST)


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Medpedia certainly got attention, but I don't see any actual progress. The economy may not be good for the sort of big bang approach they were announcing. Midgley 00:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

a wiki which tracks and atributes each word

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/29/mememoir_uber_wiki_announced/ Sounds a little interesting. I don't think I'll read the Nature paper just yet. Midgley 09:19, 30 August 2008 (BST)

Essentially with a lot of retrospective overhead you could create a database structure, do some PHP code that analysed the page history files of any mediawiki database and then its a matter of presentation. Much more trivial in overheads apart from storage capacity, if the database structure was populated as the page created which one assumes is what is done there. Mlj 20:43, 30 August 2008 (BST)